T56 Rebuild parts required? - Page 4

**dingle** · 06-14-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Doesn't the reverse lockout get energized by a setting in the ECM? I could have sworn that there is a setting for MPH or something to control that. I'd sure take advantage of that control for the reverse lockout solenoid.

Yes, but I couldn't find any data to list exactly what data it uses to control it. I believe it was Red #44, then the other wire just goes to ground. I supposed I could just temporarily wire it back to to the PCM and see if it works as intended, if it doesn't then I can move the power wire to a switch.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 06:19 PM

Well, it's either a 12v or MOST likely a 5v signal that operates the lockout relay. I'll see if I can find the code for the lockout relay malfunction. That might give the voltage it uses and the wiring diagram.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 06:21 PM

Red connector, pin 42 LT Grn, circuit #1652

P0801

http://www.ls2.com/boggs/dtcs/DTC%20P0801.htm

**jmd** · 06-14-2010, 07:52 PM

"No additional switches!"

**dingle** · 06-14-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Red connector, pin 42 LT Grn, circuit #1652

P0801

http://www.ls2.com/boggs/dtcs/DTC%20P0801.htm

So it looks like I just need to wire it up to 12v fused power and hook the ground to pin 42.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dingle

So it looks like I just need to wire it up to 12v fused power and hook the ground to pin 42.

That's what I see. Gnd comes from the ECM.

wheel junky · 06-14-2010, 08:15 PM

You would be correct with this assumption.The PCM is completing the circuit via the ground.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 08:20 PM

Ahah! Cincinnati brother weighing in! Pretty soon the whole family will be putting this tranny in!

wheel junky · 06-14-2010, 08:28 PM

its to hot for me there..maybe bring it up here and i'll provide an air conditioned garage.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wheel junky

its to hot for me there..maybe bring it up here and i'll provide an air conditioned garage.

His driveway is air conditioned! Just not very cold AC, that's all!

wheel junky · 06-14-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

His driveway is air conditioned! Just not very cold AC, that's all!

Its defiantly air conditioned to the tune of around 95-98 degrees..?
ouch..ive brought a portable air conditioner for mine..YES..im a wimp
But im a comfortable non-sweating wimp..

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wheel junky

Its defiantly air conditioned to the tune of around 95-98 degrees..?
ouch..ive brought a portable air conditioner for mine..YES..im a wimp
But im a comfortable non-sweating wimp..

Well, I guess the question is...

Which car will be running first?

wheel junky · 06-14-2010, 10:03 PM

Obviously him ..it seems his "honey do" list is shorter than mine...Or he just waits till she's asleep and sneaks out to the shed for some R&R
Besides ,I'm waiting for the expert to grace his presence upon me and learn me the ways of laptop technology..

**jmd** · 06-14-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Ahah! Cincinnati brother weighing in! Pretty soon the whole family will be putting this tranny in!

I put one in by myself a couple weekends ago when it was 110. You guys can do it in the humidity.

wheel junky · 06-14-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jmd

I put one in by myself a couple weekends ago when it was 110. You guys can do it in the humidity.

That is just ridiculously hot..But when your dedicated to get it running..you'll suffer thru it.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wheel junky

Obviously him ..it seems his "honey do" list is shorter than mine...Or he just waits till she's asleep and sneaks out to the shed for some R&R
Besides ,I'm waiting for the expert to grace his presence upon me and learn me the ways of laptop technology..

After 100, even I say screw it, it'll need to be cooler before I tackle that kind of work.

Brian? Are you going to have that intake "re-visited" before I get up there?

wheel junky · 06-14-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

After 100, even I say screw it, it'll need to be cooler before I tackle that kind of work.

Brian? Are you going to have that intake "re-visited" before I get up there?

Already did..I took care of it the night we talked..found 3 loose bolts on drivers side..reinstalled and got the car back to where it was before..
no more 4000 idles..just surges..

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-14-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wheel junky

Already did..I took care of it the night we talked..found 3 loose bolts on drivers side..reinstalled and got the car back to where it was before..
no more 4000 idles..just surges..

Oh please! Don't let me say "I told ya so!"

Great news. All we need do is get the IAC set back to normal and you should be good. Are you sure your tuner didn't save a stock tune before he played around. That is really not a smart thing to do on a tune (ESPECIALLY A CUSTOM TUNE!!!)without taking a "starting Point". I need to dig around and see what the latest tune is for that car. I'll check the laptop for "dates".

wheel junky · 06-18-2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Oh please! Don't let me say "I told ya so!"

Great news. All we need do is get the IAC set back to normal and you should be good. Are you sure your tuner didn't save a stock tune before he played around. That is really not a smart thing to do on a tune (ESPECIALLY A CUSTOM TUNE!!!)without taking a "starting Point". I need to dig around and see what the latest tune is for that car. I'll check the laptop for "dates".

My tuner did save a copy after he was done messing around.. i'm almost positive that he put the good number back in..and then saved.
But i could be mistaken

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**dingle** · 06-18-2010, 09:24 PM

429 Ls7 Clutch kit
14 Pilot Bearing
125 Slave
5 alignment tool

= 573
plus shipping

Should be able to get it all from one place if they hold true to their price match guarantee

**eboggs_jkvl** · 06-18-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dingle

429 Ls7 Clutch kit
14 Pilot Bearing
125 Slave
5 alignment tool

= 573
plus shipping

Should be able to get it all from one place if they hold true to their price match guarantee

The kit have a flywheel?

**dingle** · 06-18-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

The kit have a flywheel?

It's got all three pieces and includes bolts. Fly wheel. Pressure plate. Clutch.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-08-2010, 08:04 PM

Somethings got the vacuum leak fixed and got it's brain degaussed of ugly old LTFTs and is running.

It's going in for a SD tune and a 2bar MAP sensor on Friday.

Also, it's getting it's first bath since Christmas today! Sad, really sad....

**jmd** · 07-08-2010, 08:06 PM

Update on T56 install?

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-08-2010, 08:09 PM

Last I heard he was negotiating a price and parts for the clutch. I believe he wanted to fix the clutch while we were in the neighborhood.

Elmer

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM

Good news bad news, bad news.

Got tuned. Another vacuum leak popped up. Intake coming off to find the issue/

MAP sensor turned out to be a 1 bar (going to NAPA and pitch a bitch)

642.9 RWHP and 660.5 Torque. HOLY SHIT!

Fuel pump is failing and that needs to be replaced (Shit)

With a new pump, the vacuum leak fixed, Brian will do an SD tune with a 2.5 BAR MAP sensor.

This car will end up close to 700 RWHP. Sweet Jesus!

Elmer

**dingle** · 07-13-2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Good news bad news, bad news.

Got tuned. Another vacuum leak popped up. Intake coming off to find the issue/

MAP sensor turned out to be a 1 bar (going to NAPA and pitch a bitch)

642.9 RWHP and 660.5 Torque. HOLY SHIT!

Fuel pump is failing and that needs to be replaced (Shit)

With a new pump, the vacuum leak fixed, Brian will do an SD tune with a 2.5 BAR MAP sensor.

This car will end up close to 700 RWHP. Sweet Jesus!

Elmer

Too bad the original owner didn't get all this sorted out..

**dingle** · 07-13-2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jmd

Update on T56 install?

Waiting on the clutch to show up and pops calender to free up. The trans is all back together and awaiting install.

I don't want to try an install it by myself. I need at least one more pair of hands to help position and stabilize the thing when I put it in. I'm pretty sure the damage to the speed sensor was done by me trying to get the thing out before I chopped the exhaust.

wheel junky · 07-13-2010, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dingle

Too bad the original owner didn't get all this sorted out..

It is defiantly getting sorted out now...But if we leave it up to Napa we will never get it finished.. I ordered 2bar map sensor and got the right box but the wrong part in the box.We ordered a oil pressure sender..once again right box ,wrong part in box.We tried like crazy to get it back together tonight hoping for a last drive before pops leaves but not this time...

But the next time his butt gets back into the drivers seat he will have way more HP than he knows what to do with..

**dingle** · 07-13-2010, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wheel junky

It is defiantly getting sorted out now...But if we leave it up to Napa we will never get it finished.. I ordered 2bar map sensor and got the right box but the wrong part in the box.We ordered a oil pressure sender..once again right box ,wrong part in box.We tried like crazy to get it back together tonight hoping for a last drive before pops leaves but not this time...

But the next time his butt gets back into the drivers seat he will have way more HP than he knows what to do with..

Well to be fair, he didn't really use the 550 he had when it was his car.

wheel junky · 07-13-2010, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dingle

Well to be fair, he didn't really use the 550 he had when it was his car.

I sure did..thats why it sits broke in the garage

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-14-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dingle

Well to be fair, he didn't really use the 550 he had when it was his car.

Exactly where were those 550 supposed to be used? At least I still have "Accident Forgiveness" on my insurance policy.

I seem to recall some Gainesville activity with me driving the car. There isn't a road in America that allows anyone to use all of those horses for more than 8 seconds and even at that they could get you for excessive acceleration or street racing so, quit being mean to your Dad!

Do you have all of the parts yet so we can install the new clutch and tranny? Phase 2 starts Friday.

**dingle** · 07-14-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Exactly where were those 550 supposed to be used? At least I still have "Accident Forgiveness" on my insurance policy.

I seem to recall some Gainesville activity with me driving the car. There isn't a road in America that allows anyone to use all of those horses for more than 8 seconds and even at that they could get you for excessive acceleration or street racing so, quit being mean to your Dad!

Do you have all of the parts yet so we can install the new clutch and tranny? Phase 2 starts Friday.

the clutch, disk and pressure plate should be on their way. had an issue getting the slave shipped but it should be here next week.

**jmd** · 07-14-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Do you have all of the parts yet so we can install the new clutch and tranny? Phase 2 starts Friday.

wheel junky · 07-14-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dingle

the clutch, disk and pressure plate should be on their way. had an issue getting the slave shipped but it should be here next week.

I might have spoiled him with the comfort of my garage...sorry.

Make sure to have a large bottle of dark Rum,freezer cold for him.

**jmd** · 07-20-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Exactly where were those 550 supposed to be used?

In the street out front of where phase 2 is happening.

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Phase 2 starts Friday.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-20-2010, 03:40 PM

Dingle,

Did you pull that pilot bearing out yet? That is the big PITA on a clutch repair. I'm an "installer", not a "disassembler"!

**dingle** · 07-20-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jmd

In the street out front of where phase 2 is happening.

He's going to go through tires even quicker now.

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Dingle,

Did you pull that pilot bearing out yet? That is the big PITA on a clutch repair. I'm an "installer", not a "disassembler"!

No, I haven't touched the clutch yet. I am hoping to get under there and work on it Sunday morning. I did verify that the parts store near me rents the knife puller (that's what they called it).

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-20-2010, 10:23 PM

Ok. Just making sure you don't listen to some shade tree mechanics that use a grease ram method to get the bearing out. That is a no-no on the LS1 engine.

**dingle** · 07-22-2010, 02:11 AM

$631.47 delivered.

**dingle** · 07-22-2010, 02:21 AM

Only thing I still have to acquire is the pigtail connector for the reverse lockout.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-22-2010, 01:46 PM

Nice and pretty! They need a home where they can get dirty.

wheel junky · 07-23-2010, 03:08 PM

Looks like you are so close to getting it back together.

hopefully you can get it going and keep it going...its time to enjoy the car not just look at..

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-23-2010, 04:00 PM

It's pretty bad when my travels require me to bring my mechanic's gloves!

You ready to spin some wrenches kid?

wheel junky · 07-23-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

It's pretty bad when my travels require me to bring my mechanic's gloves!

You ready to spin some wrenches kid?

im hoping a package will arrive at your house.it will contain your gloves that were left at my house.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-23-2010, 05:50 PM

Old people forget stuff...

Thanks. I haven't looked for the gloves as I thought they were in the boot.

**dingle** · 07-24-2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wheel junky

im hoping a package will arrive at your house.it will contain your gloves that were left at my house.

Probably would have been cheaper to buy new ones.

wheel junky · 07-26-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dingle

Probably would have been cheaper to buy new ones.

Not these..a company i work for gives them to their employees.
They go for $36 a pair...

**eboggs_jkvl** · 07-26-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wheel junky

Not these..a company i work for gives them to their employees.
They go for $36 a pair...

If Emma is still coming, she has a suitcase, right?

wheel junky · 07-26-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

If Emma is still coming, she has a suitcase, right?

So true...

**dingle** · 08-01-2010, 06:38 PM

Clutch is out only thing left is to pull the bearing. I'm going to try and do that tomorrow after work n

**eboggs_jkvl** · 08-01-2010, 06:42 PM

Sounds like you're almost ready for an install. Did the reverse lockout arrive?

**dingle** · 08-03-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Sounds like you're almost ready for an install. Did the reverse lockout arrive?

It's scheduled to be here tomorrow. Couldn't get the bearing to come out with just the puller (well technically the guts of the bearing did come out). Going to stop at Lowes tonight to get a grinding stone for the dremel and weaken it and try again.

**eboggs_jkvl** · 08-03-2010, 02:10 PM

Pilot bearing is a real sum-bitch.

**dingle** · 08-03-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Pilot bearing is a real sum-bitch.

Yes it is, I hope I don't get in trouble for damaging the rental puller.

**jmd** · 08-03-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

Pilot bearing is a real sum-bitch.

Becuase people get the slide-hammer type instead of the puller type.

**dingle** · 08-04-2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jmd

Becuase people get the slide-hammer type instead of the puller type.

I have a "puller" type but it isn't working for jack shit. It's actually gouged and grooved the puller.

**jmd** · 08-04-2010, 03:20 AM

brand?

**dingle** · 08-04-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jmd

brand?

I'll have to check when I get home, it's a loaner from advance autoparts. I'm thinking about stopping at autozone and seeing what kind of rental they have.

edit:
Looks like an Alltrade Tools Kit 08 Pilot Bearing Puller.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web..._T|GRP2083____

**eboggs_jkvl** · 08-04-2010, 05:54 PM

This is the one shown in Helms.